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Hasseo75 Officer
Joined: Feb 06, 2008 Posts: 1260 Location: MX
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Posted: Sat May 01, 2010 11:30 pm Post subject: Tower and Us |
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Ok, i thought that only the key was enough to enter in the tower but looks like SoE decided to f* it again and we need the key PLUS the three Korafax raids (Pallorax, VL and Mindsear).
So we going to focus on Mindshear and need everyone show up to raid, especially those that already have a key. All that you need is the kill so be there please because the key is useless if you dont have the 3 raids completed.
Edit: Yes. we already checked that :p _________________
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Prosecution After Hours Member
Joined: Feb 12, 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Nor Cal
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 12:01 am Post subject: |
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I'm tired and going to bed, but I don't think all those statements you made are quite correct.
They Might be, hehe. I havent researched any guides on How to Enter Tower, but I have some thoughts/ideas that your test tonite probably didn't account for.
Either way tho, Mindshear should be a target, but AH gonna need full raids; the less boxes the better, etc, in order to win.
Another thing to note: As the raids go higher and the expansions go further, DPS becomes more and more important. At some point, and maybe it's already happened to a small extent, that's going to be a deciding factor in AH's success.
Eh, me sleepy . . . |
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Zacatac Officer
Joined: Nov 14, 2008 Posts: 1265
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 6:56 am Post subject: |
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Prosecution wrote: |
Another thing to note: As the raids go higher and the expansions go further, DPS becomes more and more important. At some point, and maybe it's already happened to a small extent, that's going to be a deciding factor in AH's success.. . |
Well I know the mage class benefitted from all the UF AAs. So for me, there isn't much more I can do except get better gear, which is in Tower. _________________
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Sendalor After Hours Member
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 7:35 am Post subject: |
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Thursday providing good numbers Mindshear will be the target I am going for. Seen it won multiple times by my bro so i know the strat needed. Now from what i understand is you need all 3 targets killed to request tower, but not all 3 to enter just the key. And for people to get 85% into tower not sure if they need the raids or enough people will all the raids done, either way we should have focused on Mindshear more anyway as the loots are some of best we can get.
Thursday tho, be ready for a win _________________ You kick Venomous Projection for 58652 points of damage.
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Prosecution After Hours Member
Joined: Feb 12, 2010 Posts: 18 Location: Nor Cal
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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And THAT is what Im talking about . . .
Sendalor gives more details as in Requesting vs. Entering.
My mage with Zero Korafax kills has entered Tower several times.
However, in order to piggy inside, does the raid have to have large amounts of peep who Have completed the Kora raid kills? That is possible, and therefore AH will need to get Mindshear kills done. If all you need is one completely flagged person, then Mindshear is still a good target, but not necessary at all.
Winning Mindshear will require practice. Maybe I'm just practical, but I won't predict a win for Thursday, tho with a full 54-person raid, it could happen:)
As far as dps goes, I was really referring to Raid dps, not individual toons.
We are able to squeak by on Pallorax with 12-13 tanks in a raid of 36, but Tower? No way! Mindshear? Not gonna work unless the raid is full with a solid 12+ DPS classes present. |
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Hasseo75 Officer
Joined: Feb 06, 2008 Posts: 1260 Location: MX
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Like i said: We already checked this, nobody only with a key was able to enter the tower, in all cases they were boted to zone line period. Also:
http://forums.station.sony.com/eq/posts/list.m?topic_id=163433
This is a target for full time Thurs, Fri and Sat ... all necesary days to beat this. _________________
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Zacatac Officer
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 8:50 pm Post subject: |
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Well I complained a bit on the thread. Rasper even changed his page now to read Requirements- Tower Key and 3 Korafax events.
If doing Mindshear every week is what we need to make this happen, then that is what we do. |
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Prosecution After Hours Member
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Posted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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(Saved for when I get time:) |
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Maneki New Recruit
Joined: Jun 01, 2009 Posts: 158
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Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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I should be around to help on Friday night
edit: nevermind >.< looks like I have to go out Friday night _________________
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Didokova After Hours Member
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Posted: Wed May 05, 2010 3:14 pm Post subject: |
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I will be there woot _________________
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Acoma Raid Leader
Joined: Apr 01, 2005 Posts: 1202 Location: West Virginia
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 8:49 am Post subject: |
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I should be able to make Thurdsay, Friday for sure and maybe saturday this week. I like it when holes open up. _________________ 85 Ranger|85 Shaman
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Cantinal After Hours Member
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Posted: Thu May 06, 2010 6:50 pm Post subject: |
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whenever they changed it did they do it cause keys were so easy to get ? I really hate doing this raid but may show up sometime.. but not tonight prob |
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Acoma Raid Leader
Joined: Apr 01, 2005 Posts: 1202 Location: West Virginia
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Posted: Fri May 07, 2010 9:29 am Post subject: |
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So what happens when we get flagged for tower?
We will be missing a large part of our high end raiders seeing as I dont think ROV will be allowed to participate in AH tower raids.
Since we will not be able to use the guild banner trick to move through tower that means we will need to clear all the trash as well, yay. Tower for Ah will be nothing like tower for other guilds you can bet on that.
Still should be fun if we can ever beat the damn mindshear event. It seemed to go smoother the first time last night but was still chaotic. _________________ 85 Ranger|85 Shaman
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Didokova After Hours Member
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Posted: Sat May 08, 2010 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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WOOT Void F toweer flagged now yay _________________
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Zacatac Officer
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 8:10 am Post subject: |
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Acoma wrote: |
So what happens when we get flagged for tower?
We will be missing a large part of our high end raiders seeing as I dont think ROV will be allowed to participate in AH tower raids.
Since we will not be able to use the guild banner trick to move through tower that means we will need to clear all the trash as well, yay. |
Yes, we lose RoV which is probably 6 people avg. a night. We will still be hitting Korafax for awhile though to get keys/flags for people.
As for the banner, I thought it was disabled in Tower zone (?) |
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Maneki New Recruit
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Posted: Sun May 09, 2010 11:57 am Post subject: |
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Zacatac wrote: |
Acoma wrote: |
So what happens when we get flagged for tower?
We will be missing a large part of our high end raiders seeing as I dont think ROV will be allowed to participate in AH tower raids.
Since we will not be able to use the guild banner trick to move through tower that means we will need to clear all the trash as well, yay. |
Yes, we lose RoV which is probably 6 people avg. a night. We will still be hitting Korafax for awhile though to get keys/flags for people.
As for the banner, I thought it was disabled in Tower zone (?) |
Nope, banner works. They were going to nerf it but are not, so yay
As far as RoV goes, I'd guess in a few months we will be allowed to raid Tower with AH, but it's hard to say exactly how long really. _________________
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Acoma Raid Leader
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:22 am Post subject: |
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Maneki wrote: |
Zacatac wrote: |
Acoma wrote: |
So what happens when we get flagged for tower?
We will be missing a large part of our high end raiders seeing as I dont think ROV will be allowed to participate in AH tower raids.
Since we will not be able to use the guild banner trick to move through tower that means we will need to clear all the trash as well, yay. |
Yes, we lose RoV which is probably 6 people avg. a night. We will still be hitting Korafax for awhile though to get keys/flags for people.
As for the banner, I thought it was disabled in Tower zone (?) |
Nope, banner works. They were going to nerf it but are not, so yay
As far as RoV goes, I'd guess in a few months we will be allowed to raid Tower with AH, but it's hard to say exactly how long really. |
According to the boards Banners will only be banned in Underfoot raids and not being done in old content, supposedly.
The big problem is that we cant use a banner anyways, since we are from many different guilds. This means we will need to clear all the trash which is gonna be really time consuming I do believe. So I guess once we get in tower we will be doing a Night of clearing all the trash in the zone for one night and then doing a raid target the next night.
Not sure how long until the trash in the raid zone repops but I am hoping it is at least 5 days, hehe.
As far as missing the RoV folks for these, even 6 on average a night is going to take its toll. But, I dont mind dying in new zones, hehe. _________________ 85 Ranger|85 Shaman
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Hasseo75 Officer
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 10:47 am Post subject: |
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Trash in tower is very special like some ppl already saw the other day. fortunately they are linked to events and our schedule should be something like this:
Day 1. Event 1, Clear trash for Event 2, Event 2
Day 2. Event 3, clear trash to Event 4, Event 4
Day 3. Clear to Event 5, Event 5, Minis
Day 4. Event 6, Event 7
Once mastered can be narrowed to 2-3 days. _________________
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Didokova After Hours Member
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 5:06 pm Post subject: |
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i noticed when trash mobs die they explode and create a big AE may want casters to lag behind a bit so they dont take as much damage _________________
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Hasseo75 Officer
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Posted: Mon May 10, 2010 6:43 pm Post subject: |
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Didokova wrote: |
i noticed when trash mobs die they explode and create a big AE may want casters to lag behind a bit so they dont take as much damage |
Those are only the discordlings ... on the other hand you will love the lightning dudes:
[0:00] Static starts to gather around the lightning towerguard.
[0:05] The static charge around the lightning towerguard looks extraordinarily dangerous.
[0:10] The static charge releases in a huge burst of energy.
At the 10 second mark from its original emote, it AEs "Charge Imbalance":
Charge Imbalance: PB AE 300', Magic (-650)
1: Decrease Hitpoints by 50000
2: Stun(2.00 sec) _________________
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