Some thoughts on progression.

Gurthank · After Hours Member Joined: Apr 14, 2009 Posts: 10

Personally, I would prefer to focus on progressing through MMM into Cryst asap. Make Friday a SoD/Flagging day for a change of pace or something.

In other news, Im hoping to get my DSL connection fixed soon. If that happens my attendance should be way up. I haven't been on much lately due to this.. damn you ATT. If anyone can offer some useful input via PM or in game I'd be most grateful.

Wwein · Officer Joined: Jun 18, 2006 Posts: 2480 Location: Texas

To continue with progression we need to get back to 54 person attendance all 4 nights a week. There are a few MMM targets we have yet to try but could beat, though a full raid would make this far far easier to achieve. A new weapon to a melee might give us 500dps more, but 1 more group present on the raid could yield 5-20k more dps.
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elric · Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 12:00 am Post subject:

Wwein nailed it on the head.

If we can be full or near full every night, we can beat MMM. If not, then MMM will be hard to complete. It is that simple.

I"m not the guy in charge, but I'm thinking one night a week to do flagging sounds good. Only problem is we have folks that think "nothing drops from there that I want", so they don't show, so we lack the numbers to even do the flagging raid.

Remember folks, we have to get us ALL there (in MMM) to make it doable.

Rwekk · Class Leader Joined: May 21, 2009 Posts: 104

Well, in fairness to the No shows.

Didn't we spend 2 months flagging plenty of people?

Now where are they?

If you flag the next bunch whats to say you don't have the same problem as their guilds progress into MMM.

You don't really have an option though. I expect as underfoot nears more and more people will be coming back to the game.
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Lostin · After Hours Member Joined: Jun 17, 2009 Posts: 53

Another thought in this same vein is that we should possibly back up a step and hit some TBS raids. This would still provide forward progression for us since Sony was nice enough to extend the flagging for MM items down through TBS when they raped us. How kind they are, benevolent Sony overlords. It might be worth doing a couple rounds of those events. With the events we do regularly, most of us will be fairly close but not quite flagged for raid MM items.

I realize this requires a ring, and some prequests. They are very easy to do now, and if anyone would like help doing them let me know. It alos might be worth doing as a Sunday raid. I'm tempted to try and run a pickup raid myself, but I've never done any of them and have no clue how they work, so I'd much rather attend one led by someone with a clue.

I think flagging people for MM gear would give us a significant boost in our progression. Yes, I realize bigger numbers are better, but better gear makes things a lot easier as well.

Wwein · Officer Joined: Jun 18, 2006 Posts: 2480 Location: Texas

TBS would be a step back really. The gear from TBS is worse than the group gear we can get from SoD, and even the clickies from TBS are substituted by the classics. Gear upgrades certainly help, but filling a raid have much great effects. There are exceptions though, Queen Mal requires good raiders (ability to follow orders) regardless of equipment or attendance, Brinda requires good equipment regardless of being good raiders or attendance, Krond requires good raiders and attendance, and so forth. Our need for resists on brinda is similar to what we'll need in other MMM and cryst events, so it's vital we raise our ability to survive those dots/DDs.

We continue to grow our equipment, and numbers are starting to rise again, so we'll start beating some of the new targets and can continue progressing. The rate at which we raise our hp/resists/dot&spell shielding and the rate we raise back to 54 people per night will dictate how quickly we progress from here.
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Lostin · After Hours Member Joined: Jun 17, 2009 Posts: 53

Acoma · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 5:18 am Post subject:

Sendalor · After Hours Member Joined: Sep 17, 2009 Posts: 134

Not sure where I saw it but i thought it was multiple solo tasks and then multiple group tasks to request the Solteris events or whatever but im not 100% sure but imo step back too. If you look on the list for MM yes lot of people are 2-3 away. Arent a few of MMM events on there? And Kith is gonna go down soon isnt that also on there? Im not sure cause i only looked at list once but why go way back to get what we can get thru what we want to do according to the poll.

As far as void e goes, in 2 days u can get void e no prob if you got the time. B is a cake walk, C is a cake walk, FoS i can pretty much 2 box its not hard long as you can request the task. Now Warrens is more of a pita but it still isnt too hard just need to put time into them. Raspers Repository is the best site for all your flag questions and good guide to the zone augs if your doing them. Id help ya Acoma but your never really on when I am but void prog really isnt that bad.
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Acoma · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:46 am Post subject:

Sendalor · After Hours Member Joined: Sep 17, 2009 Posts: 134

I dont know how to link what you said Acoma but here it is.
Any SoD event above tier one. Teir 1 hards dont count now. So We have RR as the only one we are beating regularly and the regular counts as one and the hard counts as one supposedly. So 1 or 2 here.

http://www.ahraiding.org/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5777

in that post if you look down on the bottom we can get multiple sod ones done or very doable. Queen hard we almost had the other night when i was there. Stop the ascension hard i havent done but i know AH has. Bloody Kith hard not yet but not too far away i hope. Rallos Returns of course. So thats 3 maybe 4 outta there. As far as MMM goes if AH has killed 3 of em at one point only need 1 more outta there for 7 so in reality its only a stone throw away long as we start hitting MMM good imo.
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Acoma · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:35 pm Post subject:

Sendalor · After Hours Member Joined: Sep 17, 2009 Posts: 134

ack didnt know that...well that sucks lol MMM all the way then!!!
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Acoma · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 12:39 pm Post subject:

elric · Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:31 pm Post subject:

Heh, I don't want to do MMs for my gear anyway Mad

./ducks really low

Lostin · After Hours Member Joined: Jun 17, 2009 Posts: 53

I personally see calling raids because low numbers as shooting yourself in the foot. When people do show up, only to have a night where we don't kill much because not enough people are in the raid, and we just throw up our hands and say; "meh, let's not do anything" then it's worse than taking a step back. It's a total and complete lack of momentum in any direction.

Given the option of taking a step back and doing something that benefits some people, or stopping all momentum and taking aim at our toes, I'd much rather kill older content, or kill something, ANYTHING...